He first me Robin while they were both students at U.C. Santa Cruz. One of his earliest performances in New York was with Robin’s “A.K.A. Orchestra Music”. In subsequent years, he worked on performances and recordings including “Larks They Crazy” (Sound Aspects SAS026). He worked on her three records of songs for Nonesuch Records, whose material he helped develop. He also was involved in Holcomb’s song cycles,”Angels at the Four Corners” “The Utopia Project” and her theater piece about Rachel Carson “O,Say a Sunset”. As well he has performed and recored her compositions for The New York Composer’s Orchestra.